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Life is about choices. To better choose, we have to weight the options. To get more options, we have to search for it. It requires dedication, sincerity, sacrifices and commitment. The reward..as fair as the effort we put in.
Life is hard. But Afterlife is a reward well worth it. Yet if we already live a life well lived, it is already a reward enough. Life is beautiful. Life is a reward fullfilled. Be alive.
This is just my opinions, gained from a life shaped by past experiences and accumulated knowledge. Knowledge gives Power. Power eventually corrupts. Life is a strange choice indeed.
That is why our Creator value us so much. We are His most perfect creation. His masterpiece. Our potential, His expectation. That is why the Adversary disagreed when we are put on a pedestal.
My opinions of major religions :
(Mind, this is just my limited judgment. Please do add your own opinions. It will save mine and other's time and effort. Thank You.)
-Buddhism = Release from attachement = Self-salvation. Egoistic.
-Hinduism = Return to the source = Rife with rituals. Void.
-Judaism = Covenant = Demanding Future. Forgetting Past. Selfish Present.
-Christian = Belated Guilt = Censored political Message.
-Pagan = Yearning for purpose = Demeaning intellectual gift.
-Islam = Submission = Blind faith expecting ridiculous reward. Apt prison.
-YAH = Relationship with Creator = Fair. Logical. What a JOY!!!
Salvation requires leap of faith. A commitment. Truth always hurts, cause of guilt from past ignorance. Truth shall set us Free. The road of freedom is rife with obstacles, otherwise it aint worth gaining. Easy comes, easy goes.
Worth fighting for..not against world, but oneself. Greatest battle of all..inside our conscience. Get the better of ourselves. Wash away the accumulated mental-programming.
The greatest love of all..is the children are the future. That is why Yah created and have such expectations out of us. Despite opposition and doubts. Yah sees no reason to change His mind. He never wavers. He knows. That is how He honours us. Thank You.
Here is my personal respond to His invitations. Thank You. I love You as much as You love us. I hope I will be able to live up to Your invitations. Even if I cant, know that I will always be gratified. Knowing You care is enough a reward for me.
And woe to the Void when I am there, a fanatical zealot to nag all till kingdom come. Perhaps thats how I can repay back Your love. I rather be Your field-worker than housing-staff. lol
Thank you oh fellow guides, light-bringers and torch-bearers. Know that there is a preacher out there supporting your works. Thank you.
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KK wrote: Will always be a thorn in my side. Equality. Why must always be the masculine first? Why Adam first and then Eve? At least Yah should start a fair example. Why must a masculine Son? Why only one? Why not show an example of an equal COMPLETE image? A Son and Daughter..both in creation, works, sacrifice and legacy. Always a Patriach..with Prophets, Leaders, Son. The world might be a better state now if all follow the example of the animal/plant kingdom. The bees/ants/trees/etc have Matriachs calling the shots. A circle of Order. Even the Adversary have a masculine connotations. But this is a deep and probably eternal enigma. Only Yah knows. That will be enough. Really? I think Yah’s ideal is for males and females to play different, equal and complementary roles. For example the role of the Set-Apart spirit and the role of Yahowsha are different, equally necessary and complement each other, without out the other each is insufficient . Another reason is the cultures of the world with which he was dealing. While He shaped the Hebrew culture initially He had to work within that culture. So to make His plan clear to them He had to use metaphors that the people He was talking to would understand. In cultures of that time Sons were their father’s representative, if a man sent his son to another city his son was for all intents and purposed him, he was about his father’s business and conducted it in his father’s name, his father would be held to the commitments that the son made. So in this culture the best way to explain Yahowsha to people would be as a son. One of the messages of the creation account is that Adam alone was not sufficient, that man alone was not good, and that was the need for creating Chawah. KK wrote: Now..another one. Regarding Gandhi and Mother Theresa. Almost all universally regards them as the perfect example of the virtues in a human. Peaceful, full of compassion, wise, incorruptible. What will happens to them? A lifetime of service, without/few sin, epitome of virtues. Will they be accepted with Yah? Even never knowing the invitations, covenants, truth? A life wasted or a life well lived? An eternal question of mine. I don’t like to speculate on the fate of anyone specifically. Scripture makes it pretty clear that no matter how good of a life you lead, unless you have a relationship with Yah you will not have an eternal life with him. If they didn’t have a relationship with Yah than they wouldn’t want to be with him for eternity anyways. Everything they knew loved and valued will not be there. And as a Catholic Theresa would probably have antipathy to most things that will be there. So heaven would be hell to them. This is a great example of why the three destinations are so fair and necessary. Yahowah allowing their souls to die is not punishment, it is in fact merciful. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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James wrote:This is a great example of why the three destinations are so fair and necessary. Yahowah allowing their souls to die is not punishment, it is in fact merciful. You explained it beautifully. Thank You. I understood the Truth. Just need to clear away lifetime of brainwashing programming. Or perhaps I am an eternal rebel. I never expect a reward anyway, and heck if offered one, will be offended. A life of choice. Free will. Thank You Father. You are wise and fair.
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KK wrote: Even the Adversary have a masculine connotations. Forgot to address this earlier, but Satan is shown as both male and female as well. The Adversary is presented as the Whore of Babylon throughout the book of Revelation. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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The power of Word. Words are mightier than swords. Knowledge can be liberating or a a chain.
This revelation here shocks me through the core. The foundation is shaking yet almost set in stone. Gratitute conveys just the same. Aint a curse, but freedom..of choices.
We are all headed to the 3 eventual fates :
1. Live a life of virtue. Got the Message. Back to Source. There IS an Afterlife.
2. Live a life of virtue. Still in Ignorance. Annihillation. No Afterlife.
3. Live a life of sin. Purposely ignorant. Join the Void. No Afterlife.
Spent a lifetime searching for an Answer. I probably had found it. Yet still aint satisfied. But had made peace with myself. Thank You.
Examples for those 3 above :
1. Yehushuwa/Yesus and those few thousands that will have relationship with God. For Eternity.
2. Gandhi, Mother Theresa and plenty others we might never known.
3. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Genghis and legions more from past, present and future.
Fairness? Justice? Balance? All come to 1 point : non-interference. Free-Will.
I rather be a Boddhisatva and continue the good work, than to join Nirvana and be blissfull to let the rest continue seeping in ignorance and chaos.
This was, is and will be an experiment. Social, ethic, free-will experiment?
The 1st was too orderly..the angels.
The 2nd was too chaotic..the fallen.
The 3rd has balance and freedom of choices..us.
In any experiments..the perfect result will come of testing coming from both sides.
This shows the staggering amount of trust, freedom and expectation from our Creator. We will be the perfect one. Having freedom to choose Order, Chaos or Balance. A worthy duplicate of the Source.
Where will we go from here? The infinite universe is our limit. Heck, there aint NO limit.
As for me..I will exercise my free-will, knowing full well the fates welcoming me. Thank You for this gift. Thanks.
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I will cut to the chase. I hope I am wrong..oh joy, that means I have still room for improvements. Perfection will be such a lonely curse. Ask The Source.
The Final shocking Revelation is..Realization of our True Potential.
The Source IS Eternal. We are all equally created in His Image. We are all Eternal. Given the same Potential. Otherwise we wont be much of a worthy equal companions anyway. He want a Relationship with an equal Partner.
Order and Chaos. Positive and Negative. Good and Evil. Joy and Suffering. One Source.
In The Beginning there was Only One. There can be NO comparison. No potential for Growth. Experience means Nothing. No point. No sense. Nothing.
In His own Image. The key is in Simultaneous. In Time. Full Circle. Alpha and Omega. The symbol of Infinity. Perfection.
As a parent, I wish for my children same full experience. I know their potential. I know that..in time, they will come to a realization. I will be patient. I will grow and learn together at the same time watching they experience this process of learning. We both benefits. No expectation, just by existing we already fulfilled the destiny.
Simultaneous in Time. We too, as He IS. Whatever happens, the experiences, the learning/growing process, the emotions..all at the Same Time. None will be wasted..all goes back to Source.
What a Realization. What a Gift. Just live. Thank You.
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To all who know (or want to know) Yah,
I learned one important lesson regarding people...and I mean ALL people! That includes family, friends, co-workers, etc.
Be prepared to be questioned. Be prepared for the angry knee-jerk reactions from all those who do not understand the truth of Yah's word.
It is very difficult to deal with all those who do not want to understand, or want to change their way of thinking.
However, by continually learning Yah's word and knowing Yah, and considering myself part of Yah's family, there is no greater reward than knowing the truth about who we are, what the plan is for us, and most importantly who our Creator is!
I will keep doing what I must. For example, I used the usual "Rosh Hashanah" evening to re-educate both, family and friends (about 20 people), about the true meaning of Yah's festival of Taruwah. They were all clueless. Some were quite interested, while others were somewhat defensive regarding the questioning of this "holiday".
I will do what Yah expects us to do, always.
May Yah bless us.
Knowing 1
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knowing1 wrote:
I will keep doing what I must. For example, I used the usual "Rosh Hashanah" evening to re-educate both, family and friends (about 20 people), about the true meaning of Yah's festival of Taruwah. They were all clueless. Some were quite interested, while others were somewhat defensive regarding the questioning of this "holiday".
Good for you! We had similar experiences this year. Nehemiah wrote:"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b [center]We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net[/center]
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knowing1 wrote:To all who know (or want to know) Yah,
I learned one important lesson regarding people...and I mean ALL people! That includes family, friends, co-workers, etc.
Be prepared to be questioned. Be prepared for the angry knee-jerk reactions from all those who do not understand the truth of Yah's word.
It is very difficult to deal with all those who do not want to understand, or want to change their way of thinking.
However, by continually learning Yah's word and knowing Yah, and considering myself part of Yah's family, there is no greater reward than knowing the truth about who we are, what the plan is for us, and most importantly who our Creator is!
I will keep doing what I must. For example, I used the usual "Rosh Hashanah" evening to re-educate both, family and friends (about 20 people), about the true meaning of Yah's festival of Taruwah. They were all clueless. Some were quite interested, while others were somewhat defensive regarding the questioning of this "holiday".
I will do what Yah expects us to do, always.
May Yah bless us.
Knowing 1 [color=darkblue][/color]More and more it is getting much easier for me - my family still rejects what I share; thinks I've lost my way, and all pray to their own personal understanding of Jebus (a Jebus each of them just so happens to make in their own image - just as Paul did - having no association with Yahowah, or His program at all...) for me to find my way back home to the faith...I have to laugh: they're blind as bats, as is all those engaged in man-made religious and political scams. Once Yah removed the blinders and showed me His truth in Towrah over and against all the BS the world peddles via all the man-made scams - I've learned that after 15 billion years of Yah's creation processes, has made saving us very easy, Yah has made saving us a default value, has made saving us an-after-thought by design on behalf of those who embrace and engage with Him as He really exists: His Towrah, being the context in which He takes care of everything that's required of us - the context being His 7 step set-apart Mow'ed Miqra'ey, and our celebrating with Him in them, as the means by which He takes us by the hand and leads us through the process to get us home is no small miracle - nor is it a small miracle that He built the same message into His 15,000,000,000,000 years of creation's record - there's no way He did all this to communicate to us He wants in His family, just to have someone like Paul come along and say it's all-for-not; evil/missing the mark; it's unable to save...it's a curse! As bad as Paul is, I realize now, a person has to be brain dead to believe Paul over Yahowah; same goes for all man-made scams people believe and put their faith in... BTW, I now think of my folks, family, traditions and customs the same way I see Paul: worthless; they can't no more help me in my walk with my Dad anymore than George Bush or Obama can save me from al qaeda (just another man-made scam)... Keep up the good work knowing1
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I have not been and will never be discouraged! I know what Yah needs me to do, and that is to stay the course and increase awareness of Yah's word so that people can use their gift of intelligence to decide for themselves regarding the one true path!
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YY show talking about making an investigation of just how infinite we are at the subatomic level made me think of something sort of funny. When man came across the atom particle, and after hearing the analogy of worshipping the Implement, over it's Creator or the One that gave us the Implement, is equivalent to worshipping the toenail clipping of it's owner. Did man by chance actually reveal just how little we are to Yah...atom/adam..lol. I wouldn't doubt it.
When you see an ant, say crawling in front of you, think how much power you reveal to it when you start maneuvering it where you want. You can crush it with slightest of pressure b/c you are that much more than it. I think on Father growing when we show our love by observing what He told us. Like any of us, we do the same. When we love our family, it usually grows, and here on earth that is our universe. Then it does start showing us that it's why He desires us to get to know Him personally, His family grows, making His universe bigger.
7 billion ants..lol..and are most of 'em fire ants and only a few sugar ants...just being silly!
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Thought I would introduce myself.
I am dajstill and I finally got the courage to join today. I found this site as I have been on my journey. I joined the Christian religion pretty early in my life, probably as a young teen or even a pre-teen. And, although I had my "slips" along the way, I have been a "faithful Christian" for over 20 years. However, just over a year ago I started complaining to my husband and my mom that something just wasn't "right" about the Christian religion. How could so many people call themselves to the same title and live so differently? The question I asked my mom in frustration was simply - what are the rules? There had to be some rules! The "grace" concept just wasn't doing it for me, it just didn't make sense. The real kicker though was my three young children. I started homeschooling them this year - left a great job because I wanted what was best for my kids. They have each been saying the "Lord's" prayer every night since before they were 2 years old. But I really wanted to teach them the truth of the Word and the true foundations of our faith. Oh boy! I found that the only thing I could find and that Christians that were actually doing any study would lead me to was the Catholic catechisms. Even people that weren't Catholic said "use this". Hmm, we weren't Catholic - how could we use this as the foundation of our faith? You could have knocked me over with a feather when I found out that yes, actually, Catholicism WAS the foundation of my Christian faith! Now, I was walking in the Christian world as far away from Catholicism as I thought one could get - raised Baptist, spent some time in "non-denominational", some time in a "mega church", then back to what is called in the south "Primitive Baptist". My husband and I knew something was wrong, we thought we needed to just get back to the bear bones of Christianity - I never thought I would be coming face-to-face not with truth, but with Constantine!
So, my journey began with things I thought would be simple questions like - why did we change from Sabbath to Sunday worship. I was sure there was some scripture there that would easily explain it, I just missed it. Wow, was I in for a surprise. I am a researcher (I have a PhD), so I love to dig and dig and dig. My digging started pretty light - books like "Our Father Abraham: the Hebrew Roots of Christianity". From there I dug a bit deeper and started to get into the "Walk in the Light Series" by Todd Bennett. In trying desperately to find out maybe Todd was lying and I could go back to "my Lord", I eventually found Yada Yahweh. I have been both overwhelmed and over joyed by this journey so far. First let me say what has made it so wonderful is that my mother is taking this journey with me! She is 70 and we talk everyday about what we are finding - like the true name of Yahweh that we gladly call upon. I have been saddened by the fact that I didn't start my journey earlier, my kids (my eldest is 6) wondered why we gave away our Christmas tree. I so wish they would have started in this world on the right path. Thankfully they are young enough to still be enthusiastic about us celebrating our first Passover next year. We are still learning and growing - we are just now starting to honor the Sabbath based on the Georgian calendar (sun down Fri to Sat), I can't even get my head around the lunar calendar just yet. My husband is truly a man of Yah, studying when He can and also listening with enthusiasm and trusting me in my study and willingly saying "what Yahweh ask us to do, we will do as a family".
However, my heart is still heavy at times. My whole life was our Christian world and we live in the Bible belt. We live amongst people who will probably think we have lost our minds when they see us celebrate Sukah, but the all the churches around here have a Halloween festival they have renamed "Harvest festival". It would almost be easier living in a big city with lots of diversity. Here the schools don't give out homework on Wednesday because it is "Bible study" day at church. However, I couldn't be more thrilled to have my mom and my husband along for the ride on this journey and my kids who so easily say "Yahweh" when we ask them what is God's name. I have so much to learn and so many ways to grow, but I have learned so much from reading posts here, reading on the YY site, and so many others confirmations. Thanks so much everyone here for posting what you study and learn and even for the debates that take place. You are having an impact on helping people, well Yada Yahweh!
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Wow, welcome dajstill. First off, calm down and don't get overwhelmed because this journey you are embarking on is going to be fun for you, and your Father, Yah. He loves that you are interested in His Word and that you want a more complete understanding of who He is. I was a, "christian" myself before removing myself from their corruption, my wife also. Though we were more the drinking and partying type christians, that believed no matter, bc we had been saved through, "grace." That we were free to do just about whatever.
You said, "I have a PhD." Well first off, in my life, and I'm learning, in Gods view, credentials don't amount to much. So I'll tell you I have one too, it's a post hole digger. Get it, phD. So most of us have one. Second, you don't need courage to approach any of us. We are all learning here, some at different speeds and others are so busy in life that they pop in when the chance allows, but keeping God in your forefront, mind, and thinking on Him and what His desires are, is what is important. I'm no one, He's all. And just where does one find Yahowah? Well it was there from the beginning, in His Word, the Towrah!!! Hallelu Yah!!!
You are really going to enjoy coming to know Yah, and as far as removing, x-mas, once you and your husband become acquainted with your Father, and learn of His days, (festivals) and in them, most of our journey is explained when we observe them. Your own children can learn to love them as much as any day they get a gift on. We have a brother on this forum that spoke of his own children and how he addressed it with them. We have what's called, Shabuwa, or Seven Sevens add one, give us fifty days from the last festival of, Bikuwrym, FirstFruits. Don't worry, you'll learn these hebrew words in dur time if you haven't already.
Well this brother talked about how in between when the 50 days are going by, in those 50 he would enjoy giving his own children gifts. Now he would do a little something for 50 days for his children, be it gift or maybe just a walk with them, but it would be something the child can delight in. After he told us this, he went on to laugh with us all, "lets see santa top that." I'll never forget that, and I believe it is a good way to help your children better understand Father. Besides, why would x-tians feel comfortable lying to their children about a fat red man entering thier homes through fire and judging thier children. And you know, if that child has poor parents that couldn't afford gifts and wakes to an empty tree, we in society judge that poor child as naughty. Doesn't that sound pathetic. If you are poor, you're bad. Makes me want to cry for what's happened in the past, but Yah doesn't want us crying. He wants us rejoicing, and I am bc another person is finding out who He is, and in that, He Himself grows.
So, welcome here, talk up often. Let us witness this growth and understanding you will be enjoying just because it might help someone else looking for the path.
Shalom!
P.S. I saw your, "alabamy" before you righted it. I laughed when I told my wife, "we have a dr. from alabamy that joined the forum." Again, welcome.
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Thanks for the welcome. I just mentioned the PhD to warn people that I have a tendency to make mole hills into giant mountains - a trait of people that spent countless hours and dollars "studying" things that really have no merit. So, it wasn't bragging as much as asking people to excuse the bad habit that comes from being groomed to "pile higher and deeper".
I am also dyslexic, so my spelling can be quite "unique" so to speak - LOL.
Again, thanks for the welcome, I am enjoying myself!
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dajstill wrote:
I am also dyslexic, so my spelling can be quite "unique" so to speak - LOL.
At least you have a reason for your spelling, I just can't spell. :) Welcome to the forum. Come often. By the way if you are interested shoot an email to email@yadayahweh.com and ask Craig for a copy of the Introduction to God, it is his latest work, and it's awesome. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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Welcome dajstill
Hey, I overthink and overanalyze things and I don't even have a PhD!
Just remember to keep your mind way open, and to question everything you read and hear! This includes what you hear and read on Yada Yah! It is truly amazing and eye-opening when you are able to engage in conversation with others.
Enjoy the time with family and friends...and remember DONT STOP DIGGING AND DIGGING!
May Yah Bless us All!
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dajstill wrote:Thanks for the welcome. I just mentioned the PhD to warn people that I have a tendency to make mole hills into giant mountains - a trait of people that spent countless hours and dollars "studying" things that really have no merit. So, it wasn't bragging as much as asking people to excuse the bad habit that comes from being groomed to "pile higher and deeper".
I am also dyslexic, so my spelling can be quite "unique" so to speak - LOL.
Again, thanks for the welcome, I am enjoying myself! [color=darkblue][/color]Welcome. It is, on the one hand, wonderful to finally know the truth (and great for the soul too), though initially it seems a hard pill to swallow. I have to deal with the other hand, which in my case involves realizing I've wasted 47 years of my life engaged and pushing something that's a fake and total fraud. For me, X-tianity's become a huge waste. The choices I would have made had I known then what I now know is already obvious in my life...not to mention all the wasted years begging praying and fasting, and tithing, and all the usual christian methods, likened to witchcraft if you were to ask me about those methods now, in my efforts to try and bring God down to me on my level and to get Him to engage in my issues rather than engaging Yah from His perspective and allowing Him to lead me out of this cesspool to His home regardless of what living life here just so happens to throw at me.
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Welcome, Dajstill! Good to have another woman on this forum -- there are only a few women here. I'm glad you are a PhD! You can steer us into deeper study, and logical thinking - right? Where did you go to school? What do you think now of your education; what was the most useful, and what was deceptive and/or harmful?
I have four young granddaughters (all under 4 years of age), and I am trying to steer them in the right direction. My daughter is starting to listen and share some thoughts about the traditional holidays with her clients at work. Next year our son and his family will be returning to the US from living in Europe, I will try to organize a big family week-long get together for Sukah.
Anyone have a source for some helpful children's books?
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Howdy Folks, So … here we go: My name is Michael; raised C of C in Texas; thought I knew a lot at one time and discovered otherwise; left Christianity/God/faith for several months in my 20’s because I became convinced church was just stupid! Wandered thereafter for some time and settled in with The Vineyard after marrying my wife (also C of C); was just getting comfortable when we became isolated geographically and socially through changing circumstances and have been for some years now; met with and were on staff (children’s pastors) with one church or other until recent years and are discontent in any church environment now. Time for short stories: I had a guitar for many years and learned a few tunes (sort of). One time, I sat and played all the songs I knew over and over till I could play them well (in my estimation). Then I envisioned myself playing for an audience and concluded “I could fool people into believing I know how to play the guitar with these tunes.” In reality, I could barely play a few basic tunes. I was struck at that moment with a realization that almost doubled me over in shame. I know just enough about God to convince people that I know Him. In reality, I know nothing. The words came to me as if spoken, “You don’t know Me at all.” I simply acknowledged and asked to be introduced. Even before then, while attending a seminary of sorts I watched the movie Groundhog Day and have watched it many times since every year. There is a scene with the couple dancing in a gazebo to the song You Don’t Know Me by Ray Charles. I am nearly overcome each time I see it because I don’t know the One who loves me … even me. Discovery: searching for an expose’ of Islam, I came across POD. Sometime later, I peeked at YY. I found it fascinating but overwhelming. My wife refused to even hear of “that stuff from the ‘internet guy’ that will pull me into some deception.” YY and ITG proved more than I could handle with my school schedule, job and family of 5. FH, on the other hand, like POD, could be listened to while I walked the beagles or just about any time. That has been working well. My wife has even become receptive and interested. I have corresponded once or twice with Craig and Ken and found them both to be warm and inviting as well as passionate. And it is a pleasure to share the company of this community. Warm regards to All. People often rob themselves of priceless experiences simply by
viewing one another outside the framework of Love.
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pilgramhere, welcome. how fortunate you are to have discovered this site. you will delight day by day in the postings and caring you experience here. i could write forever of its goodness. stay and discover. you will not be disappointed.
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Welcome pilgrimhere, hope you will stick around and contribute often. I was a full time college student working a 60hr a week job, and just starting a relationship with the woman who would be my wife when I first discovered YY. So I know the restraints of time, but it is worth the investment. There are audio portions of YY, but they are a bit outdated and do not have the latest additions, but still a good start. I was working at a pizza place and spent a lot of time in my car so the audio portions were listened to over and over, and I read the rest whenever I had a chance. My recommendation is just to spend an hour or two every Sabbath in ITG. I bet you will find it so enjoyable that you will quickly increase that to as often as possible. Also where in Texas are you, I live in the Dallas area. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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james, eeeeek! did you mean to say "women"?
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Rank: Moderator Joined: 10/23/2007 Posts: 1,784 Points: 3,832 Location: Texas
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tagim wrote:james, eeeeek! did you mean to say "women"? yeah, I meant woman, oops. One woman is all I can handle. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/11/2012 Posts: 55 Points: 72 Location: TX
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Thank you James/tagim, I need to set a slow pace to bring my wife along as she has only recently become receptive to FH. I suspect ITG may be more than she could handle for a while. For several months, I observed that her paradigm was becoming flexible and waited for her to gain interest. We’ve been listening to some FH together the past few Sabbaths. I have ITG in my phone, but I keep losing my place. Ken sent me some of his TC which I found fascinating as well. But right now, I don’t want to create an imbalance in my home that would be counterproductive. If I build much enthusiasm where my wife has only trepidation (which I share to some extent), we may not progress as well. I appreciate the encouragement. I am in Lubbock and have lived in Arlington, Abilene and Sugar Land. People often rob themselves of priceless experiences simply by
viewing one another outside the framework of Love.
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Rank: Moderator Joined: 10/23/2007 Posts: 1,784 Points: 3,832 Location: Texas
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I can relate pilgrimhere. While I came from agnosticism my wife came from a very Christian home, and had a bit of trepidation herself, but over many hours of discussion and debate (in a positive sense) she has come around to where she is as rabid as myself for Yah's Truth. She too found Ken's writings easier at first, although she spent more time in TOM than FH. I think Ken is easier to read for Christians than Craig because Craig is more blunt than Ken, and Ken takes it easier on Christians where as Craig denounces them along with all religions. So I think Ken is a little easier for a transition form Christianity. Craig appeals more to agnostic/atheists. Don't take my word for it, Look it up.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 1/19/2010 Posts: 512 Points: 1,557 Location: WA - The Evergreen State
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Welcome, PilgrimHere! I can identify with you about your good wife. It can be difficult not to become discouraged. I encourage you to persevere. Richard
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/11/2012 Posts: 55 Points: 72 Location: TX
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Very well said, James. And thank you Richard. I will present TOM to my wife when the opportunity is good. I don’t think my wife’s palate is conditioned to accept the hardy stuff yet. One other risk I must consider is the gag reflex. This is especially pertinent with us as we have seen a good friend with seemingly strong Christian faith swallow up some freaky feminist Jesus-picture cult. And we’ve had a nauseating experience with house church folks that hinted at cultish expectations. Then there are the seasoned “who can be my next project /let-me-fix-you” types in many churches that we’ve encountered. Trust is hard won with us anymore. We know that indulging in chocolate cake results in immediate gratification followed by prolonged injury and have lost our appetite for it. But gobbling up the good veggies is painful on decayed teeth and a sickly stomach. These past few months we’ve resorted pretty much to isolation and reading TPP from our Bibles (I have accumulated many of them). Come to find out – THERE’S HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IN THERE TOO!! Who would’ve thought? Right there in the translation explanations (ingredients) of my NAS and NIV is the standard copout for omitting YHWH! And they’re peppered with footnotes that only prompt more questions. Alright, it’s time for me to digress and save readers from a rant. Yahshua said He had food and water. That’s what I want. That’s all I want. People often rob themselves of priceless experiences simply by
viewing one another outside the framework of Love.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 9/7/2008 Posts: 538 Points: 1,548
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pilgrimhere wrote:Very well said, James. And thank you Richard.
I will present TOM to my wife when the opportunity is good. I don’t think my wife’s palate is conditioned to accept the hardy stuff yet.
One other risk I must consider is the gag reflex. This is especially pertinent with us as we have seen a good friend with seemingly strong Christian faith swallow up some freaky feminist Jesus-picture cult. And we’ve had a nauseating experience with house church folks that hinted at cultish expectations. Then there are the seasoned “who can be my next project /let-me-fix-you” types in many churches that we’ve encountered.
Trust is hard won with us anymore. We know that indulging in chocolate cake results in immediate gratification followed by prolonged injury and have lost our appetite for it. But gobbling up the good veggies is painful on decayed teeth and a sickly stomach. These past few months we’ve resorted pretty much to isolation and reading TPP from our Bibles (I have accumulated many of them). Come to find out – THERE’S HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IN THERE TOO!! Who would’ve thought? Right there in the translation explanations (ingredients) of my NAS and NIV is the standard copout for omitting YHWH! And they’re peppered with footnotes that only prompt more questions.
Alright, it’s time for me to digress and save readers from a rant.
Yahshua said He had food and water. That’s what I want. That’s all I want.
Welcome pilgrimhere, You will soon recognize that you are leaving the cult, not entering it. What struck me (struck me right upside the head) when I first read YY, was the beauty and simplicity of Father's Word through Craig's method of amplified translation. What a joy to read His Word in language and context that made sense. And the real beauty is that it is all laid out for you to be your own fact checker, using some simple, free online resources you can compare other translations, word roots and meanings, etc. I often (still) have trouble with Craig's hard edge (I have trouble listening to the audio programs), but I understand it and I can't say it is wrong. And quite frankly I can exhibit the same attitude especially when christians come on the forum to play with the heretics. Anyway welcome, enjoy the feast“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14
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