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Sure, we'd all love to be able to afford LOGOs software and librarys of books, but some may be frustrated by the "check me out" and can't .....
Let's start a topic of free tools to analyze scripture, and also other websites that offer plug-in to these.
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E-Sword is free software. After installing there is a handy "download" menu to add plug-ins (most free). Website is: http://www.e-sword.net/
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E-Sword: For looking at Ancient Hebrew pictograph letters and thier meanings within words the AHLB is a good one: AHLB E-Sword lexicon (www.ancient-hebrew.org) http://www.mechanical-tr...ation.org/2-esword.html
(note the fonts link too for correct display) "The Scriptures" has YHWH/Yahushua's names in Hebrew script, restores other hebrew names, and removes pagan terminology, ISR1998 E-Sword http://www.isr-messianic.org/
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For windows users, modules would be placed in root of where E-Sword program installed (ie. C:\Program Files\E-Sword) Special fonts would be installed in Windows font directory (ie. C\Windows\Fonts)
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Practical Example of using E-Sword in an email discussion on proving Messiah's name using E-Sword. Used the +KJV for strongs search engine. Dictionaries will show a symbol on what's available with the word chosen. In this example I used Strongs & Thayers for NT and BDB & Strongs for OT. The words I've surrounded in asterisks would actually been highlighted blue when I copied (cnrtl + c) and pasted (cntrl + v) into my email. ====================================================== So let’s do a study on the Messiahs name using established lexicons. Houston we have a problem :^)
Mat 1:21 AndG1161 she shall bring forthG5088 a son,G5207 andG2532 thou shalt callG2564 hisG846 nameG3686 **JESUS:G2424** forG1063 heG846 shall saveG4982 hisG848 peopleG2992 fromG575 theirG846 sins.G266 G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iēsous Thayer Definition: Jesus = “Jehovah is salvation” 1) Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate 2) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ 3) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses’ successor (Act_7:45, Heb_4:8) 4) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Luk_3:29) 5) Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Col_4:11)
Strongs G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iēsous ee-ay-sooce' Of Hebrew origin [H3091]; Jesus (that is, Yahushua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites: - Jesus.
Gen 49:17 DanH1835 shall beH1961 a serpentH5175 byH5921 the way,H1870 an adderH8207 inH5921 the path,H734 that bitethH5391 **the horseH5483** heels,H6119 so that his riderH7392 shall fallH5307 backward.H268 H5483 סס / סוּס sûs BDB Definition: 1) swallow, swift 2) horse 2a) chariot horses Part of Speech: noun masculine (extension) A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to skip (properly, for joy) Strongs H5483 סס סוּס sûs sûs soos, soos From an unused root meaning to skip (properly for joy); a horse (as leaping); also a swallow (from its rapid flight): - crane, horse ([-back, -hoof]). Compare H6571.
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Another example: Love Paul or hate him, I originally found YY website from searching about the gross mistranslation of Romans 13. This example shows the bias of the King James (Strongs), with KJV preface indicating it's agenda was to support the "divine right of Kings". Note the primary definition of Strongs versus Thayers. Further study using greek interlinear in E-Sword in verse 3 show a double negative ignored so to twist opposite (magistrates good, versus generally evil because they oppose free will). ========================= Rom 13:1 Let everyG3956 soulG5590 be subjectG5293 unto the higherG5242 **powers.G1849** ForG1063 there isG2076 noG3756 powerG1849 butG1508 ofG575 God:G2316 (G1161) theG3588 powersG1849 that beG5607 areG1526 ordainedG5021 ofG5259 God.G2316
Strongs: G1849 ἐξουσία exousia ex-oo-see'-ah From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.
G1849 ἐξουσία exousia Thayer Definition: 1) power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases 1a) leave or permission 2) physical and mental power 2a) the ability or strength with which one is endued, which he either possesses or exercises 3) the power of authority (influence) and of right (privilege) 4) the power of rule or government (the power of him whose will and commands must be submitted to by others and obeyed) 4a) universally 4a1) authority over mankind 4b) specifically 4b1) the power of judicial decisions 4b2) of authority to manage domestic affairs 4c) metonymically 4c1) a thing subject to authority or rule 4c1a) jurisdiction 4c2) one who possesses authority 4c2a) a ruler, a human magistrate 4c2b) the leading and more powerful among created beings superior to man, spiritual potentates 4d) a sign of the husband’s authority over his wife 4d1) the veil with which propriety required a women to cover herself 4e) the sign of regal authority, a crown Part of Speech: noun feminine A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1832 (in the sense of ability) Citing in TDNT: 2:562, 238
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Example of using free resources to verify the set-apart Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh) should be referred to as “She”- besides typical presentation with maternal characteristics: (E-Sword +KJV as Strongs number search) Gen 1:2 And the earthH776 wasH1961 without form,H8414 and void;H922 and darknessH2822 was uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the deep.H8415 And the **SpiritH7307**of GodH430 movedH7363 uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the waters.H4325 H7307 רוּח rûach BDB Definition: 1) wind, breath, mind, spirit <definitions removed for brevity> Part of Speech: noun feminine “Noun Feminine” eh? So this verse isn’t redundant, it’s conveying a message: Gen 1:27 And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them. I only use Paul to demonstrate scribal tampering thru the ages. How oldest manuscripts used placeholders (not “pnuema” for Spirit), and link to see placeholders in P46 with your own eyes. Rom 8:27 AndG1161 he that searchethG2045 theG3588 heartsG2588 knowethG1492 whatG5101 is theG3588 mindG5427 of theG3588 **Spirit,G4151** becauseG3754 he maketh intercessionG1793 forG5228 the saintsG40 accordingG2596 to the will of God.G2316 G4151 πνεῦμα pneuma Thayer Definition: <definitions removed for brevity> Part of Speech: noun neuter If “neuter”, how do they justify “…**HE** maketh intercession…”? Swalchy writes a good intro to the use of placeholders in ancient manuscripts here: http://www.thewaytoyahuw...anslations/introduction
Specifically – letters actually will have a bar over them: ΠΝΑ, ΠΝΣ, ΠΝΙ, ΠΝΤΙ – These placeholders are used for the word Spirit (Strongs G4151)… Now let’s go to University of Michigan p46 high quality images: http://www.bible-researcher.com/links19.html
And although Romans 8:27 not in images, there are other ones where G4151 Spirit placeholder is used (Romans 15:19, 15:30, etc) Here is link of scribes Greek character style for P46 http://www.lib.umich.edu...g/Paul/paleography.html
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[quote=cgb2]Hebrew Matthew (du Tillet Mathew): http://www.inspiredreadi.../MattithYAHu-Hebrew.pdf[/quote] Great resource! Thanks for posting this. Nehemiah wrote:"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b [center]We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net[/center]
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[quote=cgb2]Hebrew Matthew (du Tillet Mathew): http://www.inspiredreadi.../MattithYAHu-Hebrew.pdf[/quote] is this free? I dl'ed the .pdf and this info was on one of the first pages... Electronic version of Matitwhy in .pdf format for computers (Adobe Acrobat Reader allows reader to control font size). Looks EXACTLY like the book. 1 CD: $9.95 I guess I am wondering if the author/copyright owner is ok with this link being freely shared?
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eh steve wrote:is this free? I dl'ed the .pdf and this info was on one of the first pages...
Electronic version of Matitwhy in .pdf format for computers (Adobe Acrobat Reader allows reader to control font size). Looks EXACTLY like the book. 1 CD: $9.95
I guess I am wondering if the author/copyright owner is ok with this link being freely shared? Good point. I've deleted the link. I've read both print versions of Hebrew Matthew and Hebrew Revelation (Chizayon) from: http://www.torahzone.net/MORE-MESSIANIC-BOOKS/
....but also recently was disturbed by this: http://www.messianichallofshame.com/
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I don't know for sure, but it looks like the $9.95 is just for the CD, so the download from internet version would be free.
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[quote=cgb2]....but also recently was disturbed by this: http://www.messianichallofshame.com/[/quote] Finally, someone who refers to Lew White, that is even nuttier than Lew White! (LW's book has bunches of good stuff, along with some dubious information, too.) Nehemiah wrote:"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b [center]We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net[/center]
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Yah Tselem wrote:I don't know for sure, but it looks like the $9.95 is just for the CD, so the download from internet version would be free. If it was I imagine it would have been posted here: http://www.torahzone.net/FREE-PDF-DOWNLOADS/
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Daniel wrote:Finally, someone who refers to Lew White, that is even nuttier than Lew White!
(LW's book has bunches of good stuff, along with some dubious information, too.) Agreed, and also troubling that that critical website is anonymous. I couldn't find any info on whos it is.
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Link to free Dead Sea Scroll Isaiah translations: http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qumdir.htm
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This website ultimately has word search with audio clips of proper pronunciation of words. Great if wanting to learn Hebrew: http://www.searchgodsword.org/
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Has anyone tried "Accordance" software? How does it compare with Logos?
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PerrBear wrote:Has anyone tried "Accordance" software? How does it compare with Logos? hi PerrBear..I recommend you go to Amazon and read some of the ppl's reviews that have already tried out the software. Here's one if you want that I copied... I have tried most of the free software out there, but this is a dream to use. I thought about Logos for the Mac, but it contained to many titles, that I would not use, as I am only interested in the meaning of the text. What I like about Accordance is that you buy only the titles you need, I can always add the extras later, besides I have most of all I need in books. Secondly, the software support is amazing. Oak Tree, software has put all their training videos up on their site for free download. Thirdly, I wanted original language software and that was what I got. Strong's numbers are there in a KJV if you need them, but I want to look at the Hebrew and Greek and have tools to work with the NA 27 & BHS. Accordance supplies these, and allows me to work with these texts. It is the best Bible software out there,that I have used for the Mac platform, as I have not used any windows based products. It assists me with a workflow of translation and provides further information through add-ons is required. A real joy to use.
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I'd better put the next review up. I reads like a counter reply to the 1st one...
I have had this program for over a year and well . I hate it, I changed over to Mac and this was the "be all to end all". Everything you need is in a different bundle which is a pain to try to find which bundle you need and if you have it with some other bundle you have already bought
The institution DVD ( I paid extra for) keeps saying how easy it is to use BUT I am always fighting with it ALWAYS, The DVD on how to learn the program is different then the windows they use on the version on my computer NUTS! What am I to do? I spent the hundreds hoping tI would live up to the hype. I have at time just skipped using the program and just used google for what I was looking for as I did not want the extra stress of fighting with the program yet again."
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cgb2 wrote:This website ultimately has word search with audio clips of proper pronunciation of words. Great if wanting to learn Hebrew: here Thank you for that wonderful link, brother!
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Have any of you folks that have a good grasp of the hebrew alphabet ever heard of the astro alphabet and how much the two resemble each other?...I was watching this video, and 8 minutes in, the guy starts with the chart of both alphabets.. http://www.youtube.com/w...zUps&feature=related
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Well, I got about half way through this last night and if anyone else has read this or would like to, I'd like to hear your assesment on this page. I find it very telling, but then too, I don't even speak my own language that well.... http://sino-platonic.org...lete/spp196_alphabet.pdf
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MySword (for android) also works great on kindle-fire, but have to enable "allow apps other than from amazon marketplace" before install. I like this program even better than ESword on the PC. Link is on the very bottom of this page: http://www.isr-messianic.org/
One interesting thing I noticed when examining Genesis 1:1 (compare translations) the WEB had a note saying to the effect "After Elohim (God) it also has aleph&Taw in the hebrew text"...I'll have to research that further because it sure doesn't show up on KJV with strongs numbers.
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Cgb2,
The aleph&taw is in Genesis 1:1 twice if you count
ואתH853 And אתH853
H853 את 'êth BDB Definition: 1) sign of the definite direct object, not translated in English but generally preceding and indicating the accusative Part of Speech: untranslated particle A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: apparent contracted from H226 in the demonstrative sense of entity Same Word by TWOT Number: 186
The aleph&taw sounds familiar:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim. Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with Elohim.
Rev 1:8 “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, Beginning and End,” says יהוה “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev 1:9 I, Yoḥanan, both your brother and co-sharer in pressure, and in the reign and endurance of יהושע Messiah, came to be on the island that is called Patmos for the Word of Elohim and for the witness of יהושע Messiah. Rev 1:10 I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of יהוה, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, Rev 1:11 saying, “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the First and the Last,” and, “Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven assemblies of Asia – to Ephesos, and to Smurna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodikeia.”
Rev 22:12 “And see, I am coming speedily, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according to his work.1 Footnote: 1See Mt. 16:27, John 5:29. Rev 22:13 “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those1 doing His commands,2 so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. Footnotes: 1See Mt. 19:17. 2Long before the books were compiled to form “The New Testament,” Rev. 22:14 was quoted, as it is here given, by Tertullian (CE 208), and by Cyprian (CE 251) – see the well-known Antenicene Fathers.
Shalom
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