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Just something I just read that makes me wonder. What do you guys think about this here: http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d910501.htm
Are we actually doing the wrong thing by trying to figure out the name of God? Thanks, Patrick
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No we are not doing the wrong thing. He plainly had the scribes write down His name 7,000 times, so He clearly wants us to know it and use it. The problem is that people have tried for centuries to cover it up, saying ridiculous things like 'there are no vowels so it can't be pronounced' or 'it is too sacred to pronounce'... those guys are nincompoops.. it's perfectly fine to use His name and we're not trying to figure it out, we already know it, it's YHWH, pronounced Yahowah. :)
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Just asking, Patrick, have you read any ITG, or the first three pages in the YY site? If you don't think by using, Lord, or JC, isn't blasphemous, then you have yet to walk from religion. Walk away from all of it. Don't listen to any of them and never rely upon their promises b/c the promise of The Covenant is what you seek. You are still holding onto their old ways and to know Yah, you leave all that, that put you into the bondage of your religion, behind you. Salvation is not provided as a gift to those who place their "faith in the Gospel of Grace."
Replacing Yah's name with "ha ba'al – the Lord" is the single most deceptive crime ever done to mankind by those claiming to speak on behalf of God. You have that right if you choose, you can follow man and his deadly deceptions, or choose to use the Creators one true Name and observe His Word along with His festivals, and you can without being worried of eternal damnation, but finding YHWH, is by finding the path and learning that His Towrah is what illuminates His path and leads you to Him. Abraham observed His Torah!
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That llink was a hoot. Greek inspired language of scripture...snicker. Typical tactic of twisting isolated verses totally out of context. Seems the only reason there aren'nt extant Hebrew NT manuscripts is because the church burned them after torturing and murdering "heretics" caught with them
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PatrickM wrote:Just something I just read that makes me wonder. What do you guys think about this here: http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d910501.htm
Are we actually doing the wrong thing by trying to figure out the name of God? Thanks, Patrick Sorry Patrick, I couldn't get past the first sentence: askelm.com wrote:The earliest texts of the New Testament were canonized in the Greek language. 1. The New Testament is not Scripture 2. They were "canonized" by the RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY not by Father Yahowah. There is a lot of good information out there, but you are not going to find very much of it on christian websites like this. We keep repeating ourselves, asking you to read Yada Yahweh and Introduction to God, for good reason. It is the single most clarifying presentation of Yahowah's word that any of us have found. (sorry everyone if I have overstepped on that statement). I/we are not trying to get you to drink the kool-aid. We are trying to show you the way to the answers you keep asking questions to. Please, stop wasting your time with askelm sites, focus on YY or ITG. “Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14
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Hello All,
Yes, I am reading "Introduction To God" and am loving it. It's
a breath of fresh air.
Look guys, I'm new to this. I've been pulled out of the christian
church a long time ago. I also tried getting involved in the
"Hebrew Roots Movement", but found that most of those were
just another church organization. As I stated in another thread,
I've been doing this all on my own (of course it's been Yah who's
been leading me).
I do not have access to original manuscripts or anything like that.
I have a KJV, NKJV, and a Strongs. Most of what I've learned has
been through Yah's teaching anyway, it had nothing to do with my
Strongs or any teacher.
It's pretty obvious that there is a lot more to Yah's Word than what's
been told for so long. I found much of it reading my KJV without a
pastor whispering in my ear.
I believe Yah has brought me here to receive what I've been praying
for, for a long time now. I've known there is much more to His Word,
but couldn't (until now) find it.
I know Yah is calling me out from all of the brainwashing that I've
been under, so if I ask a question that goes against the grain, please
be a little patient with me. I'm more than willing to learn, and want
too with all my heart.
I'll make you all a promise... I will not post any more questions until
I have finished reading "Introduction To God" unless it's a question
about "Introduction To God" itself.
Thanks, I appreciate any and all help that's offered.
Shalom,
Patrick
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Welcome to the forum, Spada. It may be because of your native language that I do not understand your question. Would you please clarify it?
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tagim wrote:Welcome to the forum, Spada. It may be because of your native language that I do not understand your question. Would you please clarify it? Sales gimmick, Bill. He's just like those baby carrier sales ppl. And if I could rip their arms off and feed them to them, I wouldn't, but boy do I think about it...lol And you, Bill, that days coming when I get you off on some far off planet, and make you wrestle me for your next meal..I'm gonna bring that old marine out of you once again. And if by some long shot you best me...lol. We'll meet on the next distant star and have another go at it. Love ya bro, and pick up that phone next time I call.
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You two kids settle down. Don't make me come back there!
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